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we'll ask new jersey governor chris christie, and one-time adversary, newt gingrich. so far romney is sticking to a familiar theme, but does he need to do more? >> i will lower the tax rate. he wants to creat to raise them. i'll create jobs and he'll kill them. also marsha blackburn, bob shrum, and larry sabato from the university of virginia center for politics. as we head into first presidential debate, we'll talk about the state of america at home and abroad with the distinguished panel. michelle rhee, former head of the washington, d.c. school system and founder of students first. economist mark zandi of moody analytics. bob woodward, author of "the price of politics" and hendrick smith, author of the new book "who stole the american dream?." it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: and we welcome now to the broadcast new jersey governor chris christie. governor, thank you for being here. governor i have to start off by saying i don't hear very many republicans
we'll ask new jersey governor chris christie, and one-time adversary, newt gingrich. so far romney is sticking to a familiar theme, but does he need to do more? >> i will lower the tax rate. he wants to creat to raise them. i'll create jobs and he'll kill them. also marsha blackburn, bob shrum, and larry sabato from the university of virginia center for politics. as we head into first presidential debate, we'll talk about the state of america at home and abroad with the distinguished...
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. >> as chris christie said when you are complaining about the press, you are usually behind. i mean i'm paraphrasing. this is an outgrowth of the liberal media allegation. the press is out to get. republicans. so they have branched out and made it bigger and better in their minds. now pollsters have become part of this vast conspiracy. the liberal media has gotten all of these independent pollsters to cook their books. they even have the fox news pollster, and today rasmussen has obama up three points. so now they have everybody. it really is a vast conspiracy because no matter what direction you turn there's just more proof that it's nonsense. i mentioned the murdoch, wall street journal poll. they have done nine swing-state polls, and obama has won all of them. that tells you obama is probably doing pretty well in those states. you don't need these dilutional fantasy. but that's where the right-wing is. >> jennifer: we did a bit of this on the show on friday to look at the polls and look at the fox news polls too, which also said that obama was ahead, that left-wing rag. bu
. >> as chris christie said when you are complaining about the press, you are usually behind. i mean i'm paraphrasing. this is an outgrowth of the liberal media allegation. the press is out to get. republicans. so they have branched out and made it bigger and better in their minds. now pollsters have become part of this vast conspiracy. the liberal media has gotten all of these independent pollsters to cook their books. they even have the fox news pollster, and today rasmussen has obama...
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i think all that chris christie, all that was missing from the interview was a christie 2016 t-shirt. he's the worst surrogate ever. >> or maybe the best. >> i don't know. i think it is true that the stakes are higher for mitt romney. what the president wants is stays is. if the race remains as it is now he's in good shape. romney needs a big moment and the risk is he'll push too hard to get it. he'll have the zingers in mind understanding he needs it to be a big moment he'll try too hard and come across poorly to the audience. your earlier discussion the few people who say they're undecided what they say they want, we make fun of the undecided, but to a person they almost say they want is specifics. i need to know what this person is going to do. the pressure is on romney are multiple. he has to give enough specifics so undecideds can understand his plans without really telling people what he wants to do because it's unpopular? >> in another life i would like to come back as an undecided voter from ohio. >> that's it. >> the bottom line is, that the lack of specificity offered by rom
i think all that chris christie, all that was missing from the interview was a christie 2016 t-shirt. he's the worst surrogate ever. >> or maybe the best. >> i don't know. i think it is true that the stakes are higher for mitt romney. what the president wants is stays is. if the race remains as it is now he's in good shape. romney needs a big moment and the risk is he'll push too hard to get it. he'll have the zingers in mind understanding he needs it to be a big moment he'll try...
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we'll ask new jersey governor chris christie, and one-time adversary, newt gingrich. so far romney is sticking to a familiar theme, but does he need to do more? >> i will lower the tax rate. he wants to creat to raise them. i'll create jobs and he'll kill them. also marsha blackburn, bob shrum, and larry sabato from the university of virginia center for politics. as we head into first presidential debate, we'll talk about the state of america at home and abroad with the distinguished panel. michelle rhee, former head of the washington, d.c. school system and founder of students first. economist mark zandi of moody analytics. bob woodward, author of "the price of politics" and hendrick smith, author of the new book "who stole the american dream?." it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: and we welcome now to the broadcast new jersey governor chris christie. governor, thank you for being here. governor i have to start off by saying i don't hear very many republicans
we'll ask new jersey governor chris christie, and one-time adversary, newt gingrich. so far romney is sticking to a familiar theme, but does he need to do more? >> i will lower the tax rate. he wants to creat to raise them. i'll create jobs and he'll kill them. also marsha blackburn, bob shrum, and larry sabato from the university of virginia center for politics. as we head into first presidential debate, we'll talk about the state of america at home and abroad with the distinguished...
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mike, chris christie is doing the sunday shows on behalf of mitt romney. haven't seen him traveling as much. what's the schedule like? >> recently i was in missouri and utah and new hampshire. >> was he with todd aakin? >> he was the governor. >> he was in iowa as well? >> he was for a member of congress, and he's going to travel more, especially in a lot of governors' races and mitt romney as well. >> you know, on the surrogate front it's interesting. bill clinton is everywhere. melissa, i saw an e-mail out here. barack obama said after the debate he's meeting up with bill clinton again. who is the running mate, biden or clinton? >> biden is definitely the running mate. look, as the former president and as a former president two terms that the party is willing to put out there. the difference is george b. bush is a two-term president. the republican party does not have george w. bush on the trail, despite the fact that mr. romney has many bush advisers particularly in foreign policy. there's nothing like someone that held that office during good economic
mike, chris christie is doing the sunday shows on behalf of mitt romney. haven't seen him traveling as much. what's the schedule like? >> recently i was in missouri and utah and new hampshire. >> was he with todd aakin? >> he was the governor. >> he was in iowa as well? >> he was for a member of congress, and he's going to travel more, especially in a lot of governors' races and mitt romney as well. >> you know, on the surrogate front it's interesting. bill...
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this is a party that has moved so far to the right that i'm not sure jeb bush or chris christie or any of the other ones could have managed it any better because the problem is the actual party itself has really moved off of center and they've gone to far right. and they don't -- not enough people identify with that. when they look at themselves in that fun house mirror of fox news, that fun house mirror of talk radio, they think they are a majority. >> i was thinking about leslie howard's character in "gone with the wind" the gentleman who had to fight for the southern side even if he didn't believe in slavery. thank you very much, dee dee and joy-ann. ever wonder what an undecided voter looks like? who is that person? stick around for "snl's" take on the so-called low information voters, they're what they call them. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ thunder crashes ] [ male announcer ] if you think all batteries are the same... consider this: when the unexpected happens, there's one brand of battery more emergency workers trust in their maglites: duracell. one reason: dur
this is a party that has moved so far to the right that i'm not sure jeb bush or chris christie or any of the other ones could have managed it any better because the problem is the actual party itself has really moved off of center and they've gone to far right. and they don't -- not enough people identify with that. when they look at themselves in that fun house mirror of fox news, that fun house mirror of talk radio, they think they are a majority. >> i was thinking about leslie...
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>> i think chris christie was just being chris christie. while you're correct, a lot of people were dampening expectations, chris said what a lot of people are hoping and thinking. mitt romney delivers a vision with some specifics that people can grab on to and can turn this race around. the fact is things flip-flopped very, very quickly in the last two or three weeks. they can go back the other way. only if romney performs well. >> chris kofinis, do you believe that romney can turn this around as many months as he's had, one misstep after another, and by a wide margin, americans think president obama is going to win this debate and has the upper hand. what about expectations and what about the possibility of romney turning this around? what do you think? >> well, that's clearly their strategy. you have to love governor christie for raising expectations, but he was basically telling the truth. the romney campaign has to have a good performance to change the narrative of a campaign in a spiral to death. can he do it? i don't know. i have not
>> i think chris christie was just being chris christie. while you're correct, a lot of people were dampening expectations, chris said what a lot of people are hoping and thinking. mitt romney delivers a vision with some specifics that people can grab on to and can turn this race around. the fact is things flip-flopped very, very quickly in the last two or three weeks. they can go back the other way. only if romney performs well. >> chris kofinis, do you believe that romney can turn...
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. >> now let's talk about the fraud that is chris christie. his image, he's a regular guy goes down to the boardwalk yells and curses at people. reporter asks him questions he gives rude answers like this. you know tom you must be the thinnest skin guy in america because you think that's a confrontational tone, then, you know, you should really see me when i'm pissed. >> haha, look at this guy. let me tell you about the real chris christie, the one backed, financed by wall street who does their bidding at every turn. jim hammer has a great report about a program called home keeper loan. watch. >> since 2010, home keeper has only approved 498 families for foreclosure assistance, but nearly 2,000 homeowners have been denied help. in fact, less than 4 million of the $300 million has been spent ranking new jersey last among 18 recipient states in giving out these emergency foreclosure funds. >> so, it's a disaster in new jersey ranked second worst on delinquencies on foreclosures, so where's chris christie at. why isn't he spending the money to he
. >> now let's talk about the fraud that is chris christie. his image, he's a regular guy goes down to the boardwalk yells and curses at people. reporter asks him questions he gives rude answers like this. you know tom you must be the thinnest skin guy in america because you think that's a confrontational tone, then, you know, you should really see me when i'm pissed. >> haha, look at this guy. let me tell you about the real chris christie, the one backed, financed by wall street...
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. >> youe got to love chris christie. say things that aren't true, mislead. sometimes, if you're going to call someone a liar, you can just call them a liar. this is a preview of what we're going to be hearing from mitt romney on wednesday. that's what some say. will it happen and will that attack work? ryan e psilon and roland martin are both here. good to see you both. is that what's happening? is he going to come out, ryan, and say, look, there you go. that famous there you go again. there's another lie or no? >> i think it's unpredictable. i'm not sure if the debate is the right place to do it. after the paul ryan speech, you have the obama campaign referring to the lies in paul ryan's speech and that's echoed by president obama's allies in the media. when you don't have the romney campaign's response robustly. for example, president obama has been running ads claiming that mitt romney's going to re taxes on the middle class. now, mitt romney has never made that claim. this is coming from a report making all kinds of arguments. and he's made all kinds of
. >> youe got to love chris christie. say things that aren't true, mislead. sometimes, if you're going to call someone a liar, you can just call them a liar. this is a preview of what we're going to be hearing from mitt romney on wednesday. that's what some say. will it happen and will that attack work? ryan e psilon and roland martin are both here. good to see you both. is that what's happening? is he going to come out, ryan, and say, look, there you go. that famous there you go again....
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is chris christie right? this is make or break for mitt romney? >> i think he's got more at steak than obama. it's one of his last shots. >> jeanne cummings, as you're watching this back and forth, do you expect a confrontational debate or a polite exchange? >> based on what the reporting shows and the preparation of the romney campaign, they are looking to bring the game to president obama. he has to do offense and defense, very tricky in the first debate, and i think he's well prepared. he may surprise some people. >> mark, i want you to talk to me about all of the national polls we have gotten in the last 24 hours. cnn, politico, abc post, they all have something in common. what are we seeing here that's good for obama and what are we seeing here that's good for romney? >> what's good for obama is he's hitting 50%, where you need to be. if obama wins, it's going to be with numbers like those. if i'm mitt romney, i'm liking the fact the race is tightening a little bit. the question is whether this is natural tightening or is mitt romney really m
is chris christie right? this is make or break for mitt romney? >> i think he's got more at steak than obama. it's one of his last shots. >> jeanne cummings, as you're watching this back and forth, do you expect a confrontational debate or a polite exchange? >> based on what the reporting shows and the preparation of the romney campaign, they are looking to bring the game to president obama. he has to do offense and defense, very tricky in the first debate, and i think he's...
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and the governor of new jersey, governor chris christie. let's look at the state of the race, the key battleground states, nine of them, we've done polling in all, here's a result in all nine, it's obama advantage across the board. look at ohio, plus seven. look at virginia, plus five. these are key states. is the race over? >> absolutely not. and that happened pretty quickly, right, david, you saw change in the polls happen quickly. i'm here to tell you this morning. it can happen quickly back the other way. i think the beginning of that is wednesday, when governor romney for the first time gets on the same stage as the president of the united states, people can make a direct comparison about them and their visions for the future and wednesday night is the restart of the campaign and i think you'll start to see the numbers move back in the other direction. >> how do you restart the campaign, governor, at the last moment where you can reach tens of millions of people. why isn't it too late to believe that the presidential debates, after you
and the governor of new jersey, governor chris christie. let's look at the state of the race, the key battleground states, nine of them, we've done polling in all, here's a result in all nine, it's obama advantage across the board. look at ohio, plus seven. look at virginia, plus five. these are key states. is the race over? >> absolutely not. and that happened pretty quickly, right, david, you saw change in the polls happen quickly. i'm here to tell you this morning. it can happen...
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. >> chris christie is taking a different tack. >> we have a candidate who is going to do extraordinary well on wednesday night. come thursday morning when we get to thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. >> this is mitt's first time. >> are you stupid? >> overselling with gus tow. >> chris christie said the next day will be romney's time to shine. >> don't expect any zingers. >> governor romney is getting by on a zing and prayer. >> i don't know that zingers necessarily turn it around. >> that zinger and that line that gets replayed over and over again. >> if we don't run chris christie, romney will be the candidate and will lose. >> style is substance. >> wouldn't it just be easier to have a hot dog eating contest and call it a day? anyone? >> that's not helping. >> with 36 days until the presidential election and 47 hours in the debate the pressure is mounting. bill o'reilly tried to tell republicans to calm down about the debate. that they're expecting way too much of mitt romney. but this being bill o'reilly, he ended up putting even more pressure o
. >> chris christie is taking a different tack. >> we have a candidate who is going to do extraordinary well on wednesday night. come thursday morning when we get to thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. >> this is mitt's first time. >> are you stupid? >> overselling with gus tow. >> chris christie said the next day will be romney's time to shine. >> don't expect any zingers. >> governor romney is getting by on a...
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if you pick chris christie that would mean that governor romney was thinking of making a huge play for pennsylvania because new jersey media market is heavily covered in philadelphia suburbs of philadelphia suburbs of the key to philadelphia. christie plays well in the philadelphia suburbs and the plaza national game very welcome back to ameristar and charismatic figure, not likely to be the vice-presidential nominee, but if he is if that means they're going for broke and pennsylvania. of course temple into i personally predict has been predicting for some time will be the vice-presidential nominee. minnesota is a pretty far reach. a republican candidate. we did not carry it in 1980. 1984. of course that was a multitude of walter mondale's home state. twice elected not only has the potential to put minnesota in play, he has enormous appeal in wisconsin and incredible blue-collar roots and ability to connect with people that is rare among elected officials on television and radio. at the key is the best out there. i have interviewed scores and scores. of course senator portman makes a h
if you pick chris christie that would mean that governor romney was thinking of making a huge play for pennsylvania because new jersey media market is heavily covered in philadelphia suburbs of philadelphia suburbs of the key to philadelphia. christie plays well in the philadelphia suburbs and the plaza national game very welcome back to ameristar and charismatic figure, not likely to be the vice-presidential nominee, but if he is if that means they're going for broke and pennsylvania. of...
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going ahead. >> chris christie is speaking truth the other day. i don't like the expectations game very much. mitt romney is behind. what chris christie said, not the part about how it it's going to be a whole new race the next day, but saying this matters for mitt romney. and, you know, we've been talking about it for two weeks now. the romney campaign knows they are on the wrong side of the battleground polling, they're -- we've seen a little tightening in some of the national polling in the couple days. he has to move the needle in some way. it's not unprecedented in the history of presidential politics but there's a -- this race looks a lot like -- i have people annal guising it to the bob dole/bill clinton race in 1996 and by the time you got to the first dough bait in that -- debate in that race, they said they were abandoning dole, a slightly accelerated schedule of desperation and people bailing out, but it was a similar path. dole came in and the only possible way he was going to win if clinton had a heart attack on stage or intern wander
going ahead. >> chris christie is speaking truth the other day. i don't like the expectations game very much. mitt romney is behind. what chris christie said, not the part about how it it's going to be a whole new race the next day, but saying this matters for mitt romney. and, you know, we've been talking about it for two weeks now. the romney campaign knows they are on the wrong side of the battleground polling, they're -- we've seen a little tightening in some of the national polling...
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>> well, i love chris christie for a lot of reasons. he's certainly the most irreverent republican governor we have and i think maybe -- i don't know if that was a line that came from the romney campaign or if that's his own evaluation. certainly a more optimistic statement than we've heard from the romney campaign itself. it might be wishful thinking. i know chris christie tends to root for the underdog like a lot of americans. i'm actually kind of hoping mitt will do well in the debates. i hate seeing people humiliate themselves. i'm hoping for at least a decent performance from mitt romney. whether or not it will turn things around, you know, i think people have been talking about it all day, debates tend to not completely reverse the course of things. they tend to either entrench a narrative or just make things kind of tighten up a little bit. i don't think we're going to see those polls turn upside down as chris christie said. >> anna marie, the romney campaign is distributing leaflets promising the people of virginia that he will
>> well, i love chris christie for a lot of reasons. he's certainly the most irreverent republican governor we have and i think maybe -- i don't know if that was a line that came from the romney campaign or if that's his own evaluation. certainly a more optimistic statement than we've heard from the romney campaign itself. it might be wishful thinking. i know chris christie tends to root for the underdog like a lot of americans. i'm actually kind of hoping mitt will do well in the...
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wow did you see that one coming and we learned that chris christie has no regrets about his r. and c. speech shockey. and if that was all we needed to know to be an informed voter this election then the corporate media gets an a plus. but we know that's not the case none of that is as important as the real issues in this crucial election all that stuff is theater it's infotainment corporate media has lost its mission statement which is to inform not to provide bread and circus while everything falls apart around us from the one nine hundred twenty instant one thousand nine hundred seven the media was required by law to provide actual news regardless of its entertainment value so the stations could get their broadcast licenses renewed every year reagan did away with that and within a year or two all of the news networks all the news divisions of the big networks had come under the oversight of the entertainment divisions and the profit seeking bean counters thousands of reporters were laid off or fired hundreds of bureaus around the nation the world were closed so today we live
wow did you see that one coming and we learned that chris christie has no regrets about his r. and c. speech shockey. and if that was all we needed to know to be an informed voter this election then the corporate media gets an a plus. but we know that's not the case none of that is as important as the real issues in this crucial election all that stuff is theater it's infotainment corporate media has lost its mission statement which is to inform not to provide bread and circus while everything...
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. >> he was being chris christie. even though the romney campaign approves when their surrogates go on campaign trails, he'll just go off the rails and say whatever he wants. the expectations game for the romney campaign has been to lower them as low as humanly possible. you know, the romney campaign said flatly last week that the debates won't matter, which is sort of a ridiculous assertion. equally funny is last night in nevada, president obama at a rally told a crowd that he was a, quote, just okay debater. which is kind of amusing, because if you're president of the united states of america, chances are you're probably okay as a debater, john. >> what are these campaigns trying to do, peter with just a few days to go before the debates? >> the president's in nevada doing some debate prep with john kerry. the massachusetts senator, who's playing mitt romney in debate sessions. romney has been in massachusetts, with ohio senator rob portman. the obama stand-in. in his debate prep. he's going out to denver later toda
. >> he was being chris christie. even though the romney campaign approves when their surrogates go on campaign trails, he'll just go off the rails and say whatever he wants. the expectations game for the romney campaign has been to lower them as low as humanly possible. you know, the romney campaign said flatly last week that the debates won't matter, which is sort of a ridiculous assertion. equally funny is last night in nevada, president obama at a rally told a crowd that he was a,...
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the that's what chris christie says. on fox news sunday, bill crystal actually found himself complimenting the obama administrations' record while advising the romney campaign to focus on the next four years instead of the last four years. >> if this election is just about the last four years, it's a muddy verdict. bush was president during the financial melt down, the obama team has turned that around pretty well. >> and david brooks thinks he knows a moderate republican when he sees one. and that mitt romney is faking it when he tries to sell right wing extremism. >> mitt romney does not have the passion for the stuff he's talking about. he's a problem sofr. i think he's a nonideological person. and he's faking it. >> rush limbaugh who pretty much hates everything that david brooks has to say, reacted this way to david brooks on his radio show today. >> ideological age that romney can't do it? isn't that why you told us he would be the best nominee? am i wrong -- am i missing something here? isn't that why brooks and o
the that's what chris christie says. on fox news sunday, bill crystal actually found himself complimenting the obama administrations' record while advising the romney campaign to focus on the next four years instead of the last four years. >> if this election is just about the last four years, it's a muddy verdict. bush was president during the financial melt down, the obama team has turned that around pretty well. >> and david brooks thinks he knows a moderate republican when he...
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what on earth was chris christie doing? live from washington in an undisclosed location at the bureau, peter what was chris christie doing there? >> i have no idea, john. do you? this flies in the face of everything the romney campaign's been trying to do for the last few week. his senior adviser beth myers put out something saying the debates weren't going to impact the election and chris christie goes out and does what chris christie does and that's his own thing. i can tell you the obama campaign was happy to have chris christie raise expectations and raise the bar for mitt romney heading into wednesday's debate, john. >> a rare moment of honesty, refreshing in a political campaign. what then are the strategies of both campaigns heading into this debate? >> well, president obama has been in nevada a few days during the campaign. mitt romney in massachusetts sparring with rob portman who's playing the role of president obama in these debate prep sessions. for president obama his foe mitt romney, massachusetts senator john
what on earth was chris christie doing? live from washington in an undisclosed location at the bureau, peter what was chris christie doing there? >> i have no idea, john. do you? this flies in the face of everything the romney campaign's been trying to do for the last few week. his senior adviser beth myers put out something saying the debates weren't going to impact the election and chris christie goes out and does what chris christie does and that's his own thing. i can tell you the...
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chris christie or congressman ryan? >> well, if my head is twice as big as everybody on the panel does that mean i'm twice as smart in that's the question. >> you have to take that up with them. >> i think that they're both right in a way. i don't think one singular event will testimony the outcome unless either barack obama or mitt romney says there's no soviet domination of eastern europe. i do think one singular event can be a catalyst for an eventual outcome and begin a chain of events that we look back and say that's when the eventual outcome that we saw, eventually began to show itself. i think mitt romney needs this to be that catalyst. >> okay. are you just trying to be right here? when you say they're both right it makes me think you're trying to hedge a bet here. one person said that there is not a make or break moment or they don't expect and that was paul ryan. chris christie said the next day, thursday, will be romney's time to shine because we will all be talking about how he basically hit it out of the pa
chris christie or congressman ryan? >> well, if my head is twice as big as everybody on the panel does that mean i'm twice as smart in that's the question. >> you have to take that up with them. >> i think that they're both right in a way. i don't think one singular event will testimony the outcome unless either barack obama or mitt romney says there's no soviet domination of eastern europe. i do think one singular event can be a catalyst for an eventual outcome and begin a...
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. >> romney campaign was left to slap itself in the forehead when governor chris christie apparently didn't get the expectations memo. >> wednesday night is the restart of the campaign, i think you will see the numbers start to move right back in the other direction. thursday morning, the entire narrative of the race will change. >> reporter: in truth, debates rarely move polls in a significant ways. one notable exception was in 2000. when -- >> that's what a governor gets to do. >> dismissive al gore threw away a five-point lead in the course of three debates. >> romney advisors are just hoping for a solid performance. no knock-outs on wednesday night. >> i don't think one event is going to make or break this campaign. >> romney advisors told me they don't expect that they could level knock-out blow against president obama. the skilled debaters such as he is. always playing the expectation game. bret? >> bret: john, thanks. >> we're just five weeks and one day away from election day. and a little more than 48 hours from the first debate here in colorado. there is more focus than eve
. >> romney campaign was left to slap itself in the forehead when governor chris christie apparently didn't get the expectations memo. >> wednesday night is the restart of the campaign, i think you will see the numbers start to move right back in the other direction. thursday morning, the entire narrative of the race will change. >> reporter: in truth, debates rarely move polls in a significant ways. one notable exception was in 2000. when -- >> that's what a governor...